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lork



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:30 pm    Post subject: Split pot? Reply with quote

This seems to be a pretty common question that I can't find a straight up answer for

The table on a texas hold'em game.

A(h) K(h) 7(h) 3(s) 5(h)

Player 1 - 9(h)
Player 2 - 4(h)
Player 3 - 3(h)

3 people stayed in the hand, all with hearts. I said they split the pot but no one agrees. I figure they all have the A high flush with the K kicker. I swear that I've seen it happen that way on the WSOP. I've played it as a split for the last 2 years, but all these guys swear the other way. I would appreciate some help on this common problem.
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chris



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Player one wins. if the highest possible flush is on the board the pot is split if players have higher flush cards in their hands than there is a count down till one player has a higher card in this case player one
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lork



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got back from the boats in STL and I decided to take a little time and actually ask this question to a person who deals hundreds of hold'em hands a day for a living. He said that they all have an A high flush. Your best 5 card hand is the Ace high flush, not an Ace king 7 whatever flush. So to all that have been taken for chips in the past don't let it happen again. Its just like a straight, you don't get higher than an Ace high straight, and you dont' get higher than an Ace high flush. Glad we finally got a professional answer, to a nagging question
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norshvind



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They've all got A-high flushes, but Player 1 has an A-high flush, 9 higher than the other guys. Player 2 would win a side pot against Player 3 because he has an A-high flush, 4 higher. Player 3 just has a flush. The dealer you were talking to either didn't understand the question or has been splitting up pots he shouldn't have been.

Why should it be any different than winning a hand on high card?

Had you been playing five-card draw and you both had A-high flushes, you'd go to the second, third, fourth, fifth cards if you had to to break the tie. In this case, you have to go to the third card to break the tie among the three players.

Player 1's hand - A, K, 9, 7, 5 flush.
Player 2's hand - A, K, 7, 5, 4 flush.
Player 3's hand - A, K, 7, 5, 3 flush.

So Player 1 has the flush 9 higher over 2 and 3, and Player 2 has it 4 higher over Player 3. Next time you go to a casino, ask again. Maybe make a diagram so they can see it on paper, but there's no way that all flushes are equal as soon as the ace hits the board.
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razor



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lork wrote:
I just got back from the boats in STL and I decided to take a little time and actually ask this question to a person who deals hundreds of hold'em hands a day for a living. He said that they all have an A high flush. Your best 5 card hand is the Ace high flush, not an Ace king 7 whatever flush. So to all that have been taken for chips in the past don't let it happen again. Its just like a straight, you don't get higher than an Ace high straight, and you dont' get higher than an Ace high flush. Glad we finally got a professional answer, to a nagging question


This is wrong, it always goes to the person with the highest card in the flush run. No question.
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ballen



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hat guy should be fired.....hate to be at his table.best 5 cards win someone has a 9 better then the 7, no?
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arcfinn



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree on ballen he isnt a professional he is a dealer.......i have played at tables in touneys at the tropicana and other casinos and continue to run into problems with dealers on split pots...having to get rulings by floor guys telling the dealers that they are wrong.....its there job to deal, not necessarly to know the game......though they should....
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petronder



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was playing online, and I had Q 3 H in the pocket. The flop was A 7 K all Heart. The next two cards were hearts as well.

In the end party poker said that someone beat me out with an "ace high flush, ace kicker" Which i thought was utterly ridiculous.

I had the Queen of hearts, which was the highest heart anyone could have in their hand seeing as the A and K of hearts were on the board. Its best 5 cards, I dont understand how his A of diamonds came into play. Its a 6th card.
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quickie



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

petronder wrote:
I was playing online, and I had Q 3 H in the pocket. The flop was A 7 K all Heart. The next two cards were hearts as well.

In the end party poker said that someone beat me out with an "ace high flush, ace kicker" Which i thought was utterly ridiculous.

I had the Queen of hearts, which was the highest heart anyone could have in their hand seeing as the A and K of hearts were on the board. Its best 5 cards, I dont understand how his A of diamonds came into play. Its a 6th card.


I would have gone mad in that situation. His ace of diamonds does not count which ever way you cut it.
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heartbreaker



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to be a prick, but is this question STILL being asked? It's absolutely simple - the best 5 card hand wins. Meaning, you play your best 5 cards. If I have a 9 and you have a 4 to complete the flush, I win every time.

I don't understand the whole "6th" card angle, either.

I'd think with the WSOP and WPT and CP and FOX showing the full rules every single episode, people would've figured it out by now.
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