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pritz



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:53 pm    Post subject: Should I have called? Reply with quote

after playing fairly well in home games and on party poker. i decided to take my game to some live casino touneys this weekend. two situations are eating at me and i think i made the wrong choice both times.

1) i am dealt pocket queens (club and diamond), theres 3 way action, i am first to act. flop comes J9X of clubs. i check and next guy goes all in, he is chip leader and i have about half his stack and its somewhat early in the tourney. other guy folds, i think about it for a while and ultimately fold as well. there was a rebuy option but i was already 3-4x the buy in. should i have called?


2) this one for sure i am regretting. well maybe not since i took second. i was on a flush-gut straight draw. bet was 300 to me with the turn and river to come. i ended up folding as i didnt want to go chasing since i was mid-stack. i was practicing patience and in the end it worked out for me. but i am thinking with so many outs, i should have called. what would you have done?

thanks for anyones help, long time reader, few time poster.
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lork



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We'll need more information to really answer this, but I did reply to your duplicate post in the Tournament section
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chris



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Should I have called? Reply with quote

pritz wrote:
after playing fairly well in home games and on party poker. i decided to take my game to some live casino touneys this weekend. two situations are eating at me and i think i made the wrong choice both times.

1) i am dealt pocket queens (club and diamond), theres 3 way action, i am first to act. flop comes J9X of clubs. i check and next guy goes all in, he is chip leader and i have about half his stack and its somewhat early in the tourney. other guy folds, i think about it for a while and ultimately fold as well. there was a rebuy option but i was already 3-4x the buy in. should i have called?


2) this one for sure i am regretting. well maybe not since i took second. i was on a flush-gut straight draw. bet was 300 to me with the turn and river to come. i ended up folding as i didnt want to go chasing since i was mid-stack. i was practicing patience and in the end it worked out for me. but i am thinking with so many outs, i should have called. what would you have done?

thanks for anyones help, long time reader, few time poster.



#1. So you had Siegfried and Roy plus a possible Queen high flush draw? He could've had pocket rockets, two cowboys or Big slick... It's hard to say from this perspective. I wouldn't call unless I felt like my hand would hold up, folding sounds fine to me. Were you pot committed? Didn't sound like it... Did notice any other tells? Did he dominate prior hands?

#2. Need more info ... how many players, size of pot, were you SB or BB, etc...
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pritz



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) I definitely preflop raised with QQ and my read on the player was that he was very good and fairly tight. i am feeling like i should have called.

2) It was heads up, not really pot committed since i was big blind and was just called. bet was 300 which was 1.5x the big blind. again i think i should have called with so many outs. but i ended up taking second out of 30, so this one isnt eatting at me as much.

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ballen



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm only guessing here but if the rebuy was still available then it had to be early in the tournament and not wise to call with your queens. This would have risked your second place finish right then and there.
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